Jen Psaki crossed one line that even Jon Stewart thought was too far

Former White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki and Jon Stewart are normally allies.
But they found themselves on opposite sides of a fight.
And Jen Psaki crossed one line that even Jon Stewart thought was too far.
For decades, the one unquestioned advantage the Democrat Party held over the GOP was the fact that virtually every major media organization outside of Fox News and the New York Post operated as a 24/7 propaganda machine for the Left and its candidate.
That all changed in 2024 with the rise of podcasts.
The symbol of the sea change in the media landscape was Donald Trump’s appearance on Joe Rogan’s podcast, amassing 45,000,000 views on YouTube in 24 hours, making it likely the most watched political interview in history.
Trump appeared on a host of podcasts such as those hosted by WWE superstar The Undertaker, Theo Von, the Nelk Boys and Patrick Bet-David.
These podcasts attract audiences that dwarf cable and broadcast television, which allowed Trump access to an information ecosystem that reached more voters than Kamala Harris, who hewed to a traditional media strategy.
Jen Psaki told Jon Stewart that the Left was far behind in the podcast game and needed to get their act together.
Stewart agreed.
“Tour hours at Joe Scarborough shouldn’t be allowed in this country! And then, like Rachel Maddow, it’s schizophrenic at times. Like, yeah, I do think there should be some semblance of an idea that, look, they’re kicking progressive ass right now. And if progressives don’t organize their media, their think tanks and all that, it’s going to continue to happen. It’s chaos,” Stewart told Psaki when he interviewed her on his podcast.
Psaki said one of the strengths of the podcast ecosystem is that the hosts with the biggest platforms promote other shows to help them grow their audience.
“Well, I will say, broadly speaking, what Democrats — it’s not Democrats, I’m going to say people on the Left — do not do that the right does very well is support within the system each other. And what I mean by this is this. Theo Von appears on the Joe Rogan show, right?” Psaki replied.
“He promotes what Joe Rogan’s doing, but they all promote all of the things each other are doing and what the elected officials, I guess, are doing, too. And the Left is a little bit more kind of discombobulated in terms of supporting the different entities on the Left. There is not a Left ecosystem that matches the right ecosystem,” Psaki added.
Stewart then compared the emerging podcast media sphere to Fox News, saying both were organized around ideology and not party.
That’s when Psaki showed she didn’t know what she was talking about by claiming Rogan’s show was part of the conservative movement the same way the New York Times or CNN work on behalf of the Democrat Party.
“Don’t you think — but they are still in the right-wing ecosystem, wouldn’t you agree?” Psaki asked.
Stewart shot down this obvious lie, saying podcasters like Rogan and Von would be classified as anti-establishment since what unites them is more being anti-Left thanks to Democrats embrace of COVID mandates, online censorship, and transgenderism.
“No, I would consider them in a more probably libertarian comedic complex, you know, more along the lines of and if you watch or listen to their shows, a lot of times it’s just pure like goofing off,” Stewart replied.
Psaki tried to back-pedal by claiming Rogan, Von, and other podcasters were broadly pro-Trump.
“But they are supportive of the Trump enterprise, is what I mean. So maybe I’m loosely putting them in that category,” Psaki remarked.
Rogan endorsed Trump in one of the pivotal moves of the campaign.
Stewart agreed that they were supportive of Trump, but they were on team Republican the way Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro were.
“I think they are supportive, but they are not relentless in the Trump enterprise. Like, they are not Charlie Kirk. They are not Ben Shapiro. They are very different animals. They are not invested in. Now the shit that you get picked up on and like to go to the headlines at Mediaite, yeah. But on balance, that’s not what their shows are about,” Stewart concluded.
Stewart spoke the truth.
Joe Rogan endorsed Bernie Sanders in 2020.
Rogan resisted having Trump on his podcast for years, thinking Trump was a threat to democracy.
It was Elon Musk that convinced Rogan to finally have Trump on.
And to this day, Rogan says he doesn’t identify with any political party.
“I don’t consider myself a Republican. I don’t consider myself a Democrat, either,” Rogan told his audience.
Democrats refuse to do the soul-searching to ask themselves what about their woke, radical agenda is so off-putting that it alienated Americans like Joe Rogan, who don’t see themselves as partisans, into supporting Trump, despite the likes of Rogan admitting they believed the Left’s lies about Trump.